BRADLEY HATHAWAY, THE ILLUSION OF CHRISTIAN MORALITY AND THE EPIC FAILURE OF WORSHIP MUSIC

Toby thinks worship music deals too often with pain and struggle, especially when the song-writer lives in a first world country, plays the music with expensive instruments and state of the art equipment. I mean, how bad can things be, right? Joey sheds some different light on this observation. In addition, Matt, Toby and Joey discuss patriotism, constipation and "Things that Make Toby Angry." Lastly, our guest Bradley Hathaway discusses his new album "Flesh Eater" and its unorthodox, risky and potentially seen as risque' expression of sexuality. 

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IS PASTOR JUDAH SMITH GAY AFFIRMING? IS BAD CHRISTIAN?

George Mekhail, gay affirming Pastor, wrote a letter to mega church Pastor Judah Smith, (City Church, Seattle) asking for clarification on his ambiguous statement about church inclusion during a sermon. "Is City Church gay-affirming" George writes Judah Smith. "Will City Church affirm, baptize and marry gay people?" No answer after a few months. During this episode, George Mekhail highlights the importance of churches being clear on where they stand with gay inclusion, while Matt, Toby and Joey try to practice that same level of clarity.

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THE NEPHILIM CONSPIRACY (WITH GARY WAYNE) AND THE TALENT OF STEVEN FURTICK

Joey just got back from a pastors conference where he got to witness the uncanny, unmatched talent of Steven Furtick (Elevation Church). And by the way, do we always need to attach "anointing" to pure, raw talent? But for the majority of this episode, Gary Wayne, author of The Genesis 6 Conspiracy, comes on to talk Nephilim and demonic conspiracy against humanity. 
 

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MIKE HERRERA OF MXPX AND MXPX BEER

If you have been alive, and even minimally associated with underground Christian music, you've heard of MxPx. They were Christian punk before that even existed. Mike Herrera of MxPx joins Matt and Toby in studio while Toby is in Seattle for a Matt & Toby show. They talk about sound guys, tour managers, and getting kicked off shows for smoking. Did you know MxPx used to get frustrated on the road with Christian ska band, O.C. Supertones, for preaching so much on stage. MxPx has their own beer, and Mike wasn't confident enough in Pokinatcha (MxPx's first album) to share news of its release with his high school peers? How did that MxPx punk mascot come about and is it true that a Satanist helped with Life in General's album artwork?
 

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COME & LIVE! (CHAD JOHNSON) VS. BAD CHRISTIAN

Iron sharpens iron? You'll have to be the judge. Chad Johnson, an old time friend of Matt and Toby's and founder of ComeandLive.com and TakeHold Records, joins us with David Pierce, Ben Pierce (Steiger.org), all three bringing a different angle of what it means to be a Christian. Should Toby and Matt be more evangelical at Emery shows? Why did Aaron Gillespie, due to using some choice words, get the boot from speaking at a Steiger event? How vital to the gospel is the message of sanctification? Do we pick and choose what qualifies as sanctification and overlook possibly more important examples?

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